Thank You Uncle Stretch, I'm been looking at the 110v MIG so I guess I'm on the right track. I've been looking at the Hobart 125, I reckon that one would be good one start with. Don't plan to weld anything other than bicycle stuff. I don't know much about welding and want to learn more. I got a trike in my mind that I want to build someday but I'm lacking tools at the moment.