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These were in a pile of bike parts I picked up. Might just be some walmart junk, but I don't know. Anyone know what they are?

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Top one, a Mongoose??? I might have one if my feeble memory serves me right.

EDIT: The first is a VERTICAL... Its at the bottom of a pile, where it shall stay till I cut it up more. The Frame probably should work for a boat anchor just fine.
 
those are bicycle frames :mrgreen: garsh i thought someone as smart as you would know that much atleast :mrgreen:
 
The top frame is the usual generic Chinese full suspension mountain bike.The bottom frame is definitely a mountain bike, and it looks looks like the rear dropout mount for the derailleur is either missing or broken. If its a removable dropout you can get a replacement, but if it's broken off, it's the recycle bin.
 
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