I drove out to pick up an old Hercules 3 speed and found these in the barn... I told my wife that, even though they followed me home against my will, I felt obligated to take care of them. I was told they were bought used in 1960/61. My guess is late 50's AMF built for one of the department stores, but I'm brand new at this. I didn't wipe them down to look for numbers yet, but the men's bike has a New Departure brake, the ladies' is a Bendix. Looking to learn. Thanks, Ken I also took away a JC Penny Swinger banana seat bike, but that one will probably be a parts donor.