I dont know if any of you have seen this put i thought it was great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/06/20/084600.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/06/20/084600.php