Two 1950s Schwinn ID Hornet? and Unknown

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I got two Schwinn frames from eBay. Both rusty, crusty and need lots-o work.

First is a "Green" 1952 Schwinn Hornet, I believe. But I would like some confirmation on it. I think that the green pant is a previous owner. The paint underneath is a red/ maroon/ burgundy. The hardware for the front tire truss is still attached. the underside of the gooseneck comes to a gentle point, not squared. Looks like SN C39[2]61. I hope to restore this to the original model.

The second frame is possibly from the late 40s to early 50s. Dark red, and came with sweetheart sprocket, attached "tube" kickstand, large (1940s-50s chain guard) and gooseneck with a pointed underside (same as other frame. The SN is located on the bottom bracket. Most numbers are rusted off. Legible digits are: []36[][]99. My guess is either 36[59]99 or [6]36[59]99 or [G]36[59]99. I took apart the crank and heart sprocket. The crank was stamped AS & CO 28 and [99]00 (first two digits rusted).
This will be my "FrankinSchwinn" Rat Rod.
 

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The green one looks to be a Dec 52 bike, 5 numbers in the serial. The green looks original, and it could be one of a couple models, maybe a hornet or a standard. Underneath is the red primer I believe. The inside of the BB or the fork tube should show the original color.
The other one is postwar, 46 and later had the forward facing dropouts. There's a letter before the 3, maybe a wire brush could make it visible. It's anywhere from 46 to 52 from the characteristics. If that's a "G", then it's a 50 bike, 6 numbers in the serial. The model may be IDed by any paint that can be seen.
Plenty of work there, but I would welcome the task of getting those frames roadworthy.
 
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Thanks, Wildcat. I didn't think about the primer paint. But the BB is pitted with no paint left.

Any tips on a seized stem? Both are rusted in the forks. I don't want to end up hacksawing the necks, I'd rather bang them out. Though the rust has eaten away near the bottom of the forks.