Genuine Bicycle Products BMX cruiser

[c.p.odom]

Bicycle808 mentions 10mm or ten millimeters not 10 mil.
A "mil" is 1/1000 of an inch or 1/1000 of and angular degree.
True 5mm per side but only sort of as a true center plane does not exist to measure from, this could be simulated if fixtured to a surface plate.

[Bicycle808]

gentlemen,we're gettin' all hung up on minutiae here, I believe. While it's true that the terms "mil" and "mm" are not interchangeable (which is why i went back to mm in my earlier post), we can all agree that rev106 is absolutely right: no big deal.(The proper abbreviation for "no big deal" is NBD.) We're grimy bicycle folk; cold-setting a frame or re-spacing a hub is NBD for us. Just squeezing an off-size hub into a frame is even easier. In the case of some 110 bmx hubs and the Genuine Cruiser, I reckon I'd mock things up with the crank installed and the freewheel finger-tight on the hub, use 10mm of spacers on one or both sides to get the best line, cram those puppies behind the locknuts, and build the wheel around that. If any of that sounds complicated to anyone just reading thru this thread, I can assure you: NBD. (I'm sure CP and Rev106'd agree.)
=D
Rev106, I think that the canti-posts are the best bet for this build. Discs'd look out of place, u-brakes would be kinda weird in the front, and 890-type calipers? Well, I love 'em in a nostalgic kind of way, but I wouldn't wanna build a new bike with 'em. V-brakes are ugly, but they work PD good, and compliment the stated mission of that cruiser pretty well.

Well-done.
-rob

[c.p.odom]

But I love minutia almost as much as a pointless debate, lets get into some geometric tolerancing and drawing standards to fully geek out.
I will agree and disagree on the brakes, right that the cantilevers are good, 890 calipers represent the worst of BMX, but I think discs would be very cool.
Re-spacing the hub before lacing the wheel and dishing it as needed is a proper idea.

[rev106]

Oh man..geek fest!

We went with v brakes because dollars to doughnuts they work the best for the money, I run them on all my mountain bikes that can take them. We're toying with disc brake mounts but they look bulky and clutter the lines of the frame. Caliper brakes just suck. When I was a 78 pound kid they would be fine but this is a bog boy bike and while I can still fit into t-shirts I had in high school at 40, my weight now would make braking with antiquated systems more of a myth than reality. I remember one ride we did recently where my pal had the lever on his KOS cruiser down to the grip and he looked over at me with a surprised look on his face and uttered; "No brakes!". We can do the frame without bosses and have sold one as such. I'm going to break mine down and make a single speed mountain bike out of it for a coaster brake only race we do out here in July. Should be fun.

[Bicycle808]

Oh man..geek fest!

We went with v brakes because dollars to doughnuts they work the best for the money, I run them on all my mountain bikes that can take them. We're toying with disc brake mounts but they look bulky and clutter the lines of the frame. Caliper brakes just suck. When I was a 78 pound kid they would be fine but this is a bog boy bike and while I can still fit into t-shirts I had in high school at 40, my weight now would make braking with antiquated systems more of a myth than reality. I remember one ride we did recently where my pal had the lever on his KOS cruiser down to the grip and he looked over at me with a surprised look on his face and uttered; "No brakes!". We can do the frame without bosses and have sold one as such. I'm going to break mine down and make a single speed mountain bike out of it for a coaster brake only race we do out here in July. Should be fun.

I think it'd be a sin to ruin those track-ends with a disc caliper mount. Looks too nice, as it is. Being that y'all aren't doing your own forks, it probably wouldn't be any problem for someone to put a disc frnt fork on it. It's be weird to run it as a mullet-bike, with a disc up front and the v in the back, but the front is the stronger brake anyhow.

-rob

[rev106]

For now we're running some other forks, we'll be making our own at some point. But I agree, I really just don't like disc brakes and the mounting would ruin the look of the bike.

[Bicycle808]

For now we're running some other forks, we'll be making our own at some point. But I agree, I really just don't like disc brakes and the mounting would ruin the look of the bike.

How many of these frames are you sittin' on, Rev? The last frame i bought isn't gonna work for me; I need to sell off some frames/parts (gotta keep the wife happy) to make some room and scare up some cash. Essentially, this is the frame I'm looking for, but it might be a minute before I can actually grab one...

-rob

[rev106]

made 20 so far, we've sold 4. We've been "open" for about a month now.

[rev106]

just built these up so people can see what they can look like with easy to get, off the shelf parts.

[Bicycle808]

they look good; how bout some cruiser bars? I got some s&m cruiser slams, nice low-rise braced bar.

-rob

[rev106]

We made some cruiser bars.



made in USA by us 4130.

[stretch]

its bmx products inc. all over again!!

[deorman]

Just pokin' my nose in here for a second. Functionality has a beauty of it's own. I personally had a much easier time making those early "ugly" center-pull cantis work right than the side-pull noodle things that are standard now. On the other hand, the single mount side-pull Weinmann against chrome I just stuck on my 3-spd still comes on smoothly but when squeezed hard can lock-slide or "go unicycle". Love what you're doing with this product, any way, although if I were to buy one I might have to take a grinder to those rear dropouts.

[Bicycle808]

i find v-brakes to be about 50 times easier to set-up than center-pull cantis. YMMV, but i don't think i'll go back to cantis again, if i can help it. (My one bike has a center-pull cantilever front brake, though.)

-rob

[LarzBahrs]

Would you guys consider selling just a loop tail?