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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby wolfy on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:32 pm

nice! love the orange but mabye you should tone it down by painting the ribs of the block black for a orange/black :?:
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby Lugisland on Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:05 am

I plan to clean up/bevel the rough edges of the casting with a file or dremel. Hopefully, I can make them shiny. In the future, I'd like to add a billet head. Tom
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby stocksucks on Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:03 am

Lookin good!
What engine is it and how many teeth are there on the front sprocket?
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby wolfy on Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:28 pm

Are they legal im mi?
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby Lugisland on Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:44 pm

The engine is a 66cc Grubee Skyhawk GT 5 Super Rat. It's rated at 3hp. The drive sprocket has 10 teeth.

From the Michigan Secretary of State website:
"Unlike motorcycles, mopeds don't require insurance, a title, or license plate. "
Under Michigan law, a moped:

Has an engine that produces 2 horsepower or less,(STRIKE1!) and is 50 cubic centimeters in size or less;(STRIKE 2!)
Must not be able to travel faster than 30 miles an hour on a level surface;(STRIKE 3!) and,
Doesn't require the operator to shift gears.

Nope, not legal... :mrgreen:

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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby wolfy on Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:02 pm

Id ride it anyway. No cops going to notice its to big from a distance.
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby Lugisland on Tue May 10, 2011 9:12 pm

This build is slowly coming together. Instead of cutting the fork threads down, I used some 1" rings as washers. I like how they kinda match the spring.
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I cleaned all of the nasty grease out of the motor. It looks like they lubed it with used wheel bearing grease... very nasty stuff.
I re-greased everything with synthetic grease. All of the bolts have been replaced, and I lapped the head and jug while I had it apart. I still need to port match the exhaust pipe. I ordered a manic mechanic billet intake to replace the stock intake. I finished the fins on the head, and after re-assembling, I didn't like the black on the covers. It reminded me of a black & decker hedge trimmer... I painted the covers with the stainless appliance epoxy, and I'm a lot happier with the way it looks now.
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I picked up a springer seat at the Ann Arbor show. After a little sanding and shoe polish, I got the color that I wanted.
The gas tank will be a 1 quart paint can. I bought some brass garden hose fittings for the cap, but I need to replace the fuel valve with a better quality one. I cut some old Mongoose handlebars to make a lay back seatpost, but it sits too high and looks
a little clunker(ish) to me. I've got another post getting welded up to drop the seat much lower and farther back while still clearing the gas tank.
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I also ordered a manic mechanic 40 tooth rear sprocket and hub adapter to replace the kit sprocket and rag joint. Once I get the new sprocket installed, I can work on motor placement and chain alignment. The cranks don't clear the motor so I need to find some wide 1 piece cranks, or go with a 3 piece setup with a wide bottom bracket. I want to find an ATV thumb throttle too.

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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby stocksucks on Wed May 11, 2011 3:11 am

Lookin good.
So you'll have 10t on the front and 40t on the rear?
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby DHrider on Wed May 11, 2011 3:46 pm

ouuuu i like this cant wait for more updates... looks great.
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby wolfy on Fri May 13, 2011 9:54 pm

+1 for dh I like the grey/brown very smooth........
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby ozzmonaut on Fri May 13, 2011 10:35 pm

Lugisland wrote:The engine is a 66cc Grubee Skyhawk GT 5 Super Rat. It's rated at 3hp. The drive sprocket has 10 teeth.

From the Michigan Secretary of State website:
"Unlike motorcycles, mopeds don't require insurance, a title, or license plate. "
Under Michigan law, a moped:

Has an engine that produces 2 horsepower or less,(STRIKE1!) and is 50 cubic centimeters in size or less;(STRIKE 2!)
Must not be able to travel faster than 30 miles an hour on a level surface;(STRIKE 3!) and,
Doesn't require the operator to shift gears.

Nope, not legal... :mrgreen:

Here's a picture of the motor with the fins sanded.

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Since you plan to be going over 30mph, do you forsee any issues with the standard bicycle bearings withstanding those speeds?
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby wolfy on Sun May 15, 2011 7:44 pm

ozzmonaut wrote:
Lugisland wrote:The engine is a 66cc Grubee Skyhawk GT 5 Super Rat. It's rated at 3hp. The drive sprocket has 10 teeth.

From the Michigan Secretary of State website:
"Unlike motorcycles, mopeds don't require insurance, a title, or license plate. "
Under Michigan law, a moped:

Has an engine that produces 2 horsepower or less,(STRIKE1!) and is 50 cubic centimeters in size or less;(STRIKE 2!)
Must not be able to travel faster than 30 miles an hour on a level surface;(STRIKE 3!) and,
Doesn't require the operator to shift gears.

Nope, not legal... :mrgreen:

Here's a picture of the motor with the fins sanded.

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Since you plan to be going over 30mph, do you forsee any issues with the standard bicycle bearings withstanding those speeds?

As much issues as the first ever motorcycles?? :lol:
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby tvc15 on Mon May 16, 2011 12:09 pm

Hate to say.... getting this past 30 MPH may be harder than you think, I have every bell an whistle on mine and 30 is a challenge...

Your also going to need to add more braking power to your bike, the coaster brakes will heat up and fail when starting and stoping at high speeds. Also worried about your paint can gas tank.

Everything else looks pretty kick butt!
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby wolfy on Mon May 16, 2011 6:11 pm

tvc15 wrote:Hate to say.... getting this past 30 MPH may be harder than you think, I have every bell an whistle on mine and 30 is a challenge...

Your also going to need to add more braking power to your bike, the coaster brakes will heat up and fail when starting and stoping at high speeds. Also worried about your paint can gas tank.

Everything else looks pretty kick butt!

He was planning on running coasters with that :shock:
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Re: The "Algonquin"

Postby Lugisland on Mon May 16, 2011 9:05 pm

ozzmonaut wrote:
Since you plan to be going over 30mph, do you forsee any issues with the standard bicycle bearings withstanding those speeds?
I cleaned the nasty "new" grease out of the hubs, and repacked them with synthetic wheel bearing grease. I think they'll be fine.

stocksucks wrote:Lookin good.
So you'll have 10t on the front and 40t on the rear?
Keep rollin'

Yup, 10t and 40t. I've read that the 40t gives you good low end torque and a higher top end.
tvc15 wrote:Hate to say.... getting this past 30 MPH may be harder than you think, I have every bell an whistle on mine and 30 is a challenge...

Your also going to need to add more braking power to your bike, the coaster brakes will heat up and fail when starting and stoping at high speeds. Also worried about your paint can gas tank.

Everything else looks pretty kick butt!

I'm hoping that it will run 30+ mph, but if it doesn't that's ok too. I think it's gonna be fun regardless :D
The springer fork has a linear pull Shimano (V) brake with Aztec pads. My experience with V brakes and these
pads should be sufficient enough to flip me over the bars if squeezed hard enough :lol: if not, I can add a calliper
brake to the rear. I've had a few friends make some colorful comments about the paint can gas tank already, and I
need to rethink this. My brother offered to help me weld up a tank for the bike so I'm going to mock something
up with cardboard, and see what he thinks. I'd like to keep it behind the seat, but If I do decide to run a tank on the top tubes, I want it to be below them.

Here is a picture of the Pirate cycles 40t sprocket with the manic mechanic hub adapter
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Here is the seat post my brother welded up for me. Tom
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