Awesome Clear-coat in an aerosol

[ED-PV]

GREAT info...if you guys could post some pics of the finished products here that would be great!

[expjawa]

I just finished spraying a project bike with this Spraymax. The frame, fork, & chain guard all came out fine. The fenders, however, both wrinkled badly on the last coat. Not sure why, I used the same paints/processes throughout. So, this stuff might be good, but it doesn't walk on water... I'll put up pics when I dump them off the camera.

[gcrank1]

Sounds like 'something' changed.............

[expjawa]

This evening I spoke with a guy I know that runs a body shop. As it happens, a buddy of mine had to drop off his Suburu for some work and needed a ride, so it was a good opportunity. From what he told me, it sounds like wrinkling occurs when too much reducer builds up under the paint. Apparently, some combinations of paint are prone to this (ie putting enamel over laquer), but that wasn't the case here.

More likely, I either didn't give the base paint on fenders enough time to cure before clearcoating or I sprayed that last coat too heavy (or both). On one hand, the fenders were the last parts painted by a day, and on the other, the application instructions that were posted earlier in this thread said that the 2nd and 3rd coat out to be "medium wet". Could be that I'm still trying to figure out what that means in practical terms.

I will say that the fenders are incredibly glossy, even over the lifted areas. Everything dried to the touch within, oh, two hours, and I felt confident enough to handle them by this evening to bring them into the warmer part of the house to cure better. Let me state this - this clearcoat is so glossy that it makes the parts look wet. If it proves to be reasonably durable, then it will definately be worthwhile.

Now I just have to figure out what to do with the fenders. I either try to sand the clear down (it doesnt appear to have lifted the under coat or primer) and attempt to reclear them. If I did that, I'd have to complicate things by using a different clearcoat. I won't be able to sand these until after the SprayMax has, um, expired. But a clear laquer might lay down OK. Or, I can just leave it as is. This bike is a fairly ratty old frame that I've built as a winter bike. I only wanted to clearcoat it to protect the scraped and scratched areas from rusting. Seemed like a good candidate to experiment on with the Spraymax. So, this sort of adds to the bike's patina...

[gcrank1]

Go ahead and use them as is, might as well see how it all holds up anyway. Worst case is you decide to redo after a winter trial.

[expjawa]

Go ahead and use them as is, might as well see how it all holds up anyway. Worst case is you decide to redo after a winter trial.

Exactly. I'm running out of winter anyway (like we really had winter this year), so I need to get the winter bike finished up. The rear fender has the worst wrinkling; I'm putting a Topeak rack over it anyway. It won't hide the flawed area, but it will distract from it... If it bothers me enough (and it probably will), I'll take them off and redo them at some point over the summer.

[Rizzoguy]

Thanx for the info Bro!! I got two frames primed up ready for my Primo Rattle job and might as well
shoot the clear on both of them considering you have to use the whole dang can!
I've got an old western Flyer and Murray Comet just a waitin' for that rich deep shiny stuff!
Cant wait for the UPs driver to hit me with this box!!

[expjawa]

Rizzo, FWIW, I used the whole can on one bike. I was shooting the frame, fork, fenders and chainguard, three good coats over an initial light tack coat, like the posted instructions said. That used it all. If you're doing two bikes, you might have to limit yourself to one good coat. But, that said, I'm thinking of buying another 2-3 cans of it for other bikes in the works...

[gcrank1]

Yeah......but you're Da Jawa, man!

[Rizzoguy]

Cool good info. I'll have to just get another can for frame#2
Thanx!

[dohcA73]

Hi, you guys know this has isocyanate in it? was going to get some til i read the data sheet

[Jawon]

Hi, you guys know this has isocyanate in it? was going to get some til i read the data sheet

What does that mean? Is this no longer a desirable product?

And any other updates on durability. Thx!

[ifitsfreeitsforme]

Hi, you guys know this has isocyanate in it? was going to get some til i read the data sheet

What does that mean? Is this no longer a desirable product?

And any other updates on durability. Thx!

it means be really careful handling this stuff:

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/isocyanates/

[sensor]

yeah and when you use anything with them be sure you have a REAL respirator(not a paper mask dust type! spend $20 and get one from a auto paint supplier!and remember your filters are only good for about 20hours of use and need to be stored sealed up or that time counts if theyre sitting in the open!)...cant say how well it will hold up since the shops ive worked for always shoot the jams with the same clear that we do the rest of the body. sorry i cant help on that.

[Peatbog]

...and remember your filters are only good for about 20 hours of use and need to be stored sealed up or that time counts if they're sitting in the open!

What the..!? I didn't know that. Glad I do now.

What does that mean? Is this no longer a desirable product?

Anything with a chemical in it with a name you can't pronounce, don't breath it.