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Best way to change gearing

Postby RatRodDad on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:06 pm

Rat Rod got me into bikes again recently after many years of not riding one. I bought a 3 speed cruiser a month or so ago and found that the gearing is a little higher than I would like. Low gear is not low enough at times, medium is pretty good, and high I rarely use. So I was wondering how I would go about changing the gearing to make it all lower than it currently is.

Is it better to change the front sprocket or the rear? I see that the front one comes off pretty easily so that could be changed without much problem - assuming someone sells smaller ones. I'm not sure about the rear gear, though.

The bike is a Caloi Rio Cruiser and it has a Shimano Nexus 3 speed rear hub. The front chainring has 44 teeth, which appears to be standard on cruiser bikes.

So if anyone has any thoughts on which is the best gear to change - front or rear, and what to change it to (number of teeth), please pass them along.

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Postby aka_locojoe on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:27 pm

I'm no expert on gearing (I'm no expert on anything now that I think about it) and don't know if there are advantages of changing one over the other.
If you're not partial to your existing front sprocket (chain ring) I would change it and try to find a really cool looking one.
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Postby karfer67 on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:27 pm

if i remember right the nexus 3 spd hub uses a standard 3 prong sprocket meaning that you can change the gearing easily. you could also change the front but changing the rear one tooth will make a bigger difference than droping one in the front. what gear combo are you using as of now?
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Postby Vroom on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:31 pm

:D Hi Rat Rods Dad , watch out you don't get hooked
on this stuff!
Personally, I like to change the rear cogs. This means usually
changing the chain length. For this buy a chain removal tool ,
they are inexpensive.
Of course you need some donor chain,
I find buying a 22 or 23 tooth cog will make a huge difference
over the original 18 or 19 tooth cog and you keep the same
front chainring.

I done this on a half dozen or so 'cruisers and it is
usually the first change I make to make them much more
"rider" friendly.
With this change I have not found a need for an any
lower gear . I am not a pro mechanic but only speak
from personal experience. 8)
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Postby karfer67 on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:36 pm

good call vroom but you should mention that with some frames the chain line starts to become a problem when using a 22 t or above in the rear. i have found that this normally happens with mid weight frames and that full fat tire frames work just fine.
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Postby Vroom on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:42 pm

[quote="karfer67"]good call vroom but you should mention that with some frames the chain line starts to become a problem when using a 22 t or above in the rear. i have found that this normally happens with mid weight frames and that full fat tire frames work just fine.
:? Sowhat do you mean , the chain becomes to close to the
seatstay? I had'nt encountered that yet, but I also don't have
many middleweights
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Postby RatRodDad on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:47 pm

Thanks for the feedback so far. I will consider both options - front and rear gear swap - before doing anything.

I will try to take some pics of the new bike and get them out on the site. Not too "rat" at this point - but it's been fun to ride so far and actually gets me out of the chair during the day.
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Postby 62Higgins on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:52 pm

Well I guess I'll be the odd man out here.

I favor changing the front chainring. One of the main reasons is that when you stockpile alot of parts off donor bikes, you wind up with different size chainrings laying around, especially if you seperate multiple ring set ups off of ten - eighteen speed bikes which have one piece cranks with two or three rings on them.

I built up a bike last spring using a three speed Nexus rear wheel. The front chainring was from a 70's Kmart womens 10 speed (smaller of the two on the cranks). It was 39 teeth and had a really cool 3 arm/spoke look to it. I thought the overall gearing worked pretty well around here (not real flat).

Another option we used when I was a kid (picking parts from the town dump) was to run a dual chainring set up on the cranks and add in a second section of chain and utilize the larger of the 2 rings for "road trips".

You could also find a "spider" to use with 1 piece cranks and then the gearing options are pretty much unlimited, as they typically use 110 bcd chainrings which are available in all different numbers of teeth. These spiders can be found on some low to mid level BMX donor bikes (which is where I got one).
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Postby karfer67 on Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:16 pm

vroom it is the same problem that some BMX bikes have when they go to a "micro" drivetrain using small gears front and rear. the chain can come dangeriously close to the frame and i had this happen using a large rear gear with a schwinn mid weight frame. i will say that the large rear gear looks really cool most single speed nirves come with a large gear.
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Postby new_dharma on Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:34 am

change the rear
after years of riding my SS bike both on & off-road, it's easier to swap the back...plus if you look at derailer bikes, the rear cassette has little difference between gear size, but the fronts always make a huge jump...a small change in the back makes a noticable difference while a small change in the front does not.

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Postby RatRodDad on Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:47 am

Thanks new_dharma. I'm all for easy.

The bike had some cross threaded pedals on it when I got it, so I bought a new crank that came with a new 44 tooth front gear and I changed those out already. So I played around with the old one and found that the gear can be removed fairly easily.

I haven't looked at the back gear yet, but from the posts is appears that's fairly easy to change too. I'm assuming it either bolts on - or maybe screws on - to the end of the hub.
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Postby Vroom on Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:12 am

:) Just a snap-ring
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Postby new_dharma on Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:19 am

also...it depends on the hub...most of the hubs I've delt with have a clip that holds them on (except my SS...it has a threaded BMX freewheel).
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Postby RatRodDad on Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:20 am

Thanks, Vroom.

Do I need a rear gear that's specific to the Shimano Nexus rear hub? I don't know how universal they are.

Also, I'm not sure what to call them. I tried various searches on Ebay and only find front chainrings. So I'm not sure what to search for to find the rear gears.
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Postby new_dharma on Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:23 am

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/nexus-mech.html

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