Well I wanted Apes on my Cruiser, but didn't want the rise of the goose neck that was stock on my 3G.... I always liked the look of A-Head steams... I found fake stem that allows you to use A-Head steams.... This allowed me to drop the bars down by almost 4 inches. And the plus side is I have an extra set of bars and stem for mods.... Now to get moving on my tank insert.