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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:19 pm

ifitsfreeitsforme wrote:once you get the old one out, you could always put in a slick threadless bottom bracket, but again, at $66 you're probably not going to want to.

I plan I purchasing one of these when I get around to fixing up an old Raleigh I have in the attic:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/ ... ckets.html


Yeah, I just can't see spending that type of money on a "patina" bicycle, I want it right, but I can't afford to sink lots of money into a cruiser.
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:22 pm

Anyone know of a forum or website I could look for one of these used? eBay gots nothing!
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby deorman on Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:22 pm

Have you checked the outer diameter of the bearing shell against 1-pc.?
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:06 pm

deorman wrote:Have you checked the outer diameter of the bearing shell against 1-pc.?


Nope, but it's small, it looks like any other Euro BB until I learned that it's unthreaded.
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby MORTUNDEAD on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:39 pm

I think I have a crank that will fit this. These thread on to the left( I think) do you just need a spindle?
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:55 pm

MORTUNDEAD wrote:I think I have a crank that will fit this. These thread on to the left( I think) do you just need a spindle?


Yes, justy the spindle should be enough, these are similar to American BBs in that the cups are pressed in:

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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby largek9 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:59 am

Hey Yoot,Will any of these work? I have no idea what they fit ?..... Tom
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:17 am

Nope, those are current spindles that are held in by the cups being screwed into the BB, the one on mine has reverse threads on the left side and you install it just like you would a single piece crank. Thanks though.
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby drush66 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:14 pm

Hi,

If I am right you could find a lot used or cheap new parts in Slovenia or Croatia, since one of the more popular bikes in 80's Rog Senior used such bottom bracket and cottered cranks. Actually most people try to get a rid of those and get standard BB when starting a second life of their old bicycles since this bottom brackets never seem to work as they should. This is unfortunately quite difficult since the shell is neither threaded, nor of suitable dimensions for modern BB.

So if you are still interested, drop me an e-mail.
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:10 pm

drush66 wrote:Hi,

If I am right you could find a lot used or cheap new parts in Slovenia or Croatia, since one of the more popular bikes in 80's Rog Senior used such bottom bracket and cottered cranks. Actually most people try to get a rid of those and get standard BB when starting a second life of their old bicycles since this bottom brackets never seem to work as they should. This is unfortunately quite difficult since the shell is neither threaded, nor of suitable dimensions for modern BB.

So if you are still interested, drop me an e-mail.


I welded the messed up crank arm to the messed up spindle, then a week or two later I found another JC Higgins bike with a Thompson bottom bracket, so I have it for a spare. Thanks though, I was trying to keep from buying something from overseas that would cost a lot, and I bought the women's JC Higgins for $40
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby deorman on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:28 pm

Sweet score on the oddball stuff! 8)
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:47 am

deorman wrote:Sweet score on the oddball stuff! 8)


Thanks, it really came out of nowhere. First day of vacation in Lancaster Co. PA I looked on CL and saw a women's JC Higgins, hard to tell in photos, but looked like a smaller BB. I called and had the guy describe the BB to me, it was about 25 minutes away, but the kids needed a nap, it was indeed another German made JCH.

I paid $40 for the bike, which was cheaper than a used Thompson BB on eBay or a new one from overseas.

The bike has a decent wheelset (Komet rear coaster) with old tires, still holding air today. Fenders and seat were alright, frame cracked, but it is now part of a tall bike. Cool blue sparkle Hunt Wilde grips with streamers, etc...

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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby drush66 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:07 pm

yoothgeye wrote:I welded the messed up crank arm to the messed up spindle, then a week or two later I found another JC Higgins bike with a Thompson bottom bracket, so I have it for a spare. Thanks though, I was trying to keep from buying something from overseas that would cost a lot, and I bought the women's JC Higgins for $40


If you have experience with Velo Orange Grand Cru Threadless Bottom Bracket, do you know, could it be retrofitted into the BB cage of your bike instead original one? I.e. can it expand enough to be fixed in a 40mm cage?

Or do you know any other modern BB that could be used in this cage?
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Re: Thompson Bottom Bracket on '56 J.C. Higgins

Postby yoothgeye on Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:07 pm

It is possible that the Velo Orange threadless unit MAY fit, but for $66, I'd just buy a Thompson BB from overseas.

The thing is, the bikes that have Thompson bottom bracket shells are not the type of bikes that would really need a high end sealed bottom bracket.

The old Thompson BB on my mens JC Higgins had really nice bearings and once it was greased up and the bearings were adjusted it was as smooth as any 1 piece crank.
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