Questions about selling on RRB

Discussion in 'FORUM TALK' started by horsefarmer, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. horsefarmer

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    When selling on RRB what is the Etiquette?
    I have been a
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    5 completed purchases - 100% feedback positive.
    I have not sold here on RRB yet.
    I also deal on Ebay and Craigslist and swap meets, sometimes sell sometimes buy it's a hobby only.
    I understand value of feedback, paypal and function and risk of "cash".
    I have been using "friends and family" (I know you are not supposed to) but it is all small $ stuff and everyone has been great till now....
    I don't want to mention the seller, yet, but it is frustrating. Guy is friendly, responsive to PM's and has good feedback, member since 2011.
    It has been over thirty days since paypal sent and he has yet to ship (or send tracking #).
    It's small $ item for a 60's Schwinn middleweight, and it's January and i'm in Wisconsin so I've got time, LOL
    But still 29 PM's back and forth! I asked for my money back @ 30 days if it was to difficult to to the deal for him.
    He came back and offered to adjust price somehow to make up for delays. I asked if he would include another small item along if he had not shipped and he agreed. Really seems like a nice guy, does posts about his own bikes, I'd prob enjoy a beer or 2 with the guy... what do you think?
     
  2. Falstaff

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    That's tough man.
    I'd be frustrated too, maybe there's something going on in his life that he's not able to ship? Maybe he simply hasn't felt up to it, or possibly misplaced the part you ordered and hasn't said.

    Could be a lot of things, but I think posting this might get you results. Good luck.
     
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  3. G-Matt

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    Send him a package full of dog poop , lol . But really it sounds like bad business to me if that's how you run a business maybe you should not be in business. I don't carry how many pm you wasted your time on . A delay is one thing but a line of bs is another . Unless there was a tragedy or you've been out of town .... I run my own business & I'm not perfect but honesty & a timely manner keeps me very busy .
    I would get with pp and see if you can get a refund some how . I have shipping a number of items and its alway gotten in the mail with in two days of getting paid. This probably doesn't help much but I feel for ya , I don't like being taken vantage of !!!!



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  4. Pookie42

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    I think 30 days is way to long... As soon as I sell something after cash is received I ship the next day. I would feel bad if I shipped it a week late... Just sayin...


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  5. Rat Rod

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    No payment as gift PERIOD unless you are literally friends and family with the person.

    By sending a total stranger a payment as friends and family you are basically saying you don't care if you ever get your item or not. Doesn't matter how nice they are or what their feedback is, you've forfeited any ability for recourse.

    If the seller refuses a regular payment, add an extra 3% to the payment to make up for PayPal fees.

    This is why we have that rule in the For Sale section.
     
  6. Big Ape

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    Especially on sites like this, you feel a kinship and brotherhood to the other members. So, the idea of a friends and family payment seems perfectly logical. Problem is, we have no true knowledge of the other person. Another option, if there is no rush, would be to send a check or money order. Even though you broke a rule, I still see no reason that you can't leave negative feedback for this member. I do think others look at those ratings when dealing on here.
     
  7. blwnmny

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    I agree with Big Ape, you should still be able to leave negative feedback if necessary, and that may be your only recourse at this stage. Hopefully he comes through for you, and you get your merchandise. I will admit, I send funds over as friends/family all the time, and I know that I'm taking a big risk in trusting members,and I have been told not to do this. I can honestly say I have not been burnt by anybody on this forum in particular, but I have been burnt on another forum, and for a large amount of $$$$, good luck man, and have faith. Positive thoughts! :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Rat Rod

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    We did have a long standing member with thousands of posts and lots of positive feedback flake out on several people and earned themselves a spot on the wall of shame this past year. It's just hard to know who you can really trust so it's best to offer to pay the extra 3% for PayPal fees.

    As the person who receives the complaint emails about bad transactions, I can't recommend strongly enough...don't give up your PayPal payment protection to save the seller a few bucks.
     
  9. Aquilex

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    Experience tells me that the nice guy routine is something jerks use to make you feel bad about taking appropriate action. I would say to leave negative feedback now to warn others. Also, this may be the leverage you need to get the guy moving. Someone who is taking advantage of you is not a nice guy. Don't deal with him that way. You are being taken advantage of by someone only pretending to be a nice guy.
     
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  10. blwnmny

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    It's probably best to just automatically add the 3% onto the asking price anyways, I admit, I used to just add it on myself just
    For my own protection. I have gotten a little lazy lately in doing so, because of dealing with really great upstanding members on here, I do realize that I am taking a risk. If this person is stringing you along, it needs to be addressed, give him the appropriate feedback he so richly deserves then.
     
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  11. blwnmny

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    I will say, one thing that really burns me up? When you pay for something promptly, and you don't get it for like 3 weeks, and they say... I 'm sorry, I forgot to ship it, it has been rolling around in the back of my car, I'll get it out to you tomorrow. At least lie to me, don't tell me that!
     
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  12. rrtbike

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    There have been lots of ads missing pricing and other info.
    And if you want the 3% extra just add it in your price. Please read the rules before you post your ads people. Pic, price, location, etc.....Its not that hard.

    Good luck horsefarmer.
    Hope your post here resolves your issue.
     
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  13. texasbigjon

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    Im in the same boat brother! im going on week 12 of trying to get a frame/fork shipped to me. sounds like we are dealing with the same member.
     
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    You guys should definitely compare notes. We don't need another Black Crown Tattoo guy trolling our pockets.
     
  15. ozzmonaut

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    Aw c'mon guys. I'm still a cool dude. I'll get your stuff out to you some day... I promise. Just kidding! I'm not the seller. But seriously, I hope this guy comes through. I only do paypal for goods. No family stuff. Trust me, you need that protection. I've used it and it works. If I'm buying and something is low priced, I add the 3%. If it's a great price I add 3.5% to make up for the 3% making the total higher and causing the seller more fees. Not a low price... 0 % added. Can't afford it. I'd agree, after a month, this guy is yanking you around no doubt. And like said above, definitely compare notes and try to get this guy out in the open.
     
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  16. blwnmny

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    Agreed! The way I look at it, it's a privilege to be able to buy and sell on here.....don't take advantage of someone. If he doesn't follow through, let it be known for all to see! Or you can just tar and feather him. :grin: :thumbsup:
     
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  17. horsefarmer

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    Everyone,
    I sent the seller a PM spelling out send my stuff in 24 hrs and send me a tracking # or refund me via paypal - it is up to him. If I get my item or money back I prob will not fink on him - maybe give neutral feedback. If he stalls at all I will post his name here tomorrow and give him neg. feedback. I will tell you I've been in contact with "Big John" and we are talking about the same member not shipping items.
     
  18. Falstaff

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    I hope he ships or refunds, but I kinda wanna know who so I don't buy anything from him.
     
  19. CRASH

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    As a nice guy, I hate it when the "nice guy" label is abused. At the same time, I've been burned on this site. Not for big money, but it still causes trust issues. I just charge a bit more or take a bit more of a loss in order to put peeps at ease.
    I hope your situation gets resolved. If not, we need to know who.
     
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