yeah, i just needed a name. i don't know if it'll be really light, but it should be compared to my own stretches. i just saw that a buildoff had started. never done one, but i have a bike with a half baked plan. i'll throw a pic up and see if i can actually do this in time it's a hybrid type bike i think. 26". it's kinda light so i thought if i were careful it'd be lighter than the ones i make from beach cruisers. it also has a little spring in the back so i guess if i finish i may look fot a springer later and have a full suspension lightweight stretch. i usually have a big tube i get from work on the bottom of my bikes, but i have a mountain bike already chopped up some with a similar tube that's probaly lighter than the conveyor roller from work that i mean to use. i'll get a pic of it later. this bike will make up the rear mostly. that's where the half baked part comes in. i'm thinking look for a 24" ten speed for most of the front. i'll have to see if i get anywhere with this in time.