Here is the riding video of my running down one of Savannah's 13 million tourists. :arrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVrW-D- ... e=youtu.be Well first I have to give complete credit to yoothgeye and his over the top sand bike SAND ROVER (viewtopic.php?f=21&t=41955&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a) I never would have thought of this on my own. I didn't want to continue bogarting his thread with stories about my hunt for a Stingray, so here is my thread. About the time that I saw yooth's rolling frame, I saw a Sun Snyder, and then an OCC Stingray showed up on CL. I had to jump. I think yooth is dead on whith his scale and execution using a smaller frame with these fat twentys. With a bigger frame the wheels wouldn't look as big and thuggish. I guess I can't really call this a build yet, because all I have is some of the parts and an idea. But maybe if I post my idea to RRBers it will force me to follow through and not have to walk the shameful halls of unfinished bikes. As a reference and with major reverence, let me show an early photo of yooth's Sand Rover. Pretty awesome build isn't it??? I don't plan to do a total theft of Sand Rover. I decided it would be cool to tie it in to another bike style that I enjoy and that is folding bikes. Here is the 86 Dahon Classic that I am thinking of using. I know that there will be a few engineering challenges to this, but what the heck. It's a start. Also here is the OCC StingRay I started with. Cool story with this purchase, that I will post later.