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40-41 Schwinn D97X Build. :Now In Working Order:

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  1. duncan

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    No sence in blowing up the Fresh Finds forum with my updates, so ill post my progress here.

    I got this bike last weekend from a very cool guy that lives in my area. I got alot of help figuring out what model, year, What parts were OG, and not OG from some guys here. Special thanks to B607, UdallCustomBikes, Ohdeebee, for helping me. You guys are awesome!
    The Original color is red I believe, based on the paint inside the head tube, and bottom bracket. I also belive that it had some kind of creme color that goes from the head tube, back. But on the fork, there is what looks to be original blue paint on the steer tube. Then it someone painted the rest of the frame blue to match the fork. Then someone painted the whole thing black. Then nature took its course and now its mostly surface rust.
    Wheels need total rebuilding, and all the spokes need to be replaced.
    Chain guard is Wald Aftermarket one.
    It has a clamp on kick stand, and not the other kind.
    The rear hub is a New Departure Model D
    The front hub says "New Departure-W"
    I don't think the rims are OG, since I can't find any markings.
    Stem, seat, chain ring aren't OG.... Etc...

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    chain tension-er screws are nice and loose
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    This is the only markings on the seat.
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    one of the caps are gone
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    It also came with 2 tires and tubes-
    Cordovan(?) tube and tire
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    Are these OK to throw away? or does anyone want them for some reason? If someone wants them, You can have them.

    The 2nd one is a Schwinn Typhoon Cord tire in better shape. No tears, rips etc., just cracking in some places.
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    And one good Carlisle(?) tube.
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    Started to take it apart and clean everything-
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    This thing is pretty nasty
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    BB Bearings- Before and after
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    The seat say supports, and chain stay supports are a bit messed up
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    That's all for now. Stay tuned for more!
  2. oldcruiser26

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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    That looks like alot of fun you got there I actually really like it when there in pretty rough shape to begin with I'm for sure going to watch this build progress cheers
  3. duncan

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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Yea, I'm going to keep the patina on it the way it is. It gives it character.

    I don't know exactly what i'm doing with this one, but for right now, i'm focused on getting it running. I have a couple ideas swirling around.
    Something to deal with White tires :D
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Took the cranks out the other day. This thing is covered in grease.

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    Also didn't know this thing came out.
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    Guessing that's normal.

    And as it sits now.-
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    I should be pulling the fork soon whenever I have some free time.
    I also sold my Ross mountain bike, so it should help a bit in getting some parts!
    I have never messed with old Schwinn bikes before, so it's a learning experience for sure. But so far, everything's good, and i'm enjoying it a lot.
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    cool bike, like that you are going to leave it as is!
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Thanks, I like the Patina look

    As you can see from the pictures, there has been an excessive amount of WD40 sprayed on by the PO. It does not seem like it is going away at all, and doesn't look right.
    Has anyone else experienced this before, and have any advice on how to get it off? I tried to wipe a small spot down with a damp rag, and it did nothing. Maybe just go out in the back yard and spray it down with the hose and some soap?
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    wash with dish soap
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Spray the rest with yet mor WD40. It will fade off eventually.
    Great bike.
    Id' just leave it like it is.
    You can replace that bearing 9 ball cage with 11 steel balls. It's much more reliable, since many of those cages do not last long (chinese stuff..). Place them with grease.
    Keep it up
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Thanks guys for the advice. I haven't been able to try them out yet, but hopefully i will this weekend or so.

    Not much has been going on building wise (thanks to school work :roll: ), but I have been doing a little research.

    Apparently, there was a 1940 D97XE-OS, 1941 D97XE-1, D97XE-6 (Equipped, and Non-equipped)

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    Witch leads me to belive, If the fenders are OG on mine, and Schwinn came out with the "Un-equipped" DX in 41 and not 40, Then I would have either a D97X-1, or D97X unequipped.
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Today was a pretty productive day. First, I took the forks off, and apparently they were red originally, and some one painted some blue.

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    Then I cleaned the whole thing with dish soap and water. (Thanks jalopyjimmy13, and stocksucks For the advice!) Now it's clean :mrgreen:

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    I have also taken out pretty much all the bearing cups, and every nut and bolt that are chrome, and I am going to polish them up on the wire wheel tomorrow.

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    Pretty nice OG paint.

    I also attempted to take the seat apart. There are 2 bolts in the back, but i have no clue to do with the front. Any suggestions?

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    I had also tore into both Hubs and cleaned them. They are kinda different that a earlier coaster hub, and a bit more complex.
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    Never seen bearings like this before.
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    Also, Their is a circular plate on the cog, that is holding the small bearing in. I cant get the small bearing's out at all. Any one know how to get them out?
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    Re: 40's Schwinn D97X Build.

    Gorgeous rusty pics. Keep it up
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    Re: 40-41 Schwinn D97X Build.

    A few days ago, I cleaned some parts up on the wire wheel:

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    And I had figured how to get the bearings out. The plate holding them in just popped right out.
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    I have also ordered some tires as well for this, so hopefully they will be here soon.

    Also, the spokes are 10 3/4'' long when i measured them, so if I don't have any laying around, I will have to order some.
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    Re: 40-41 Schwinn D97X Build.

    Making good progress on it. Keep it up!
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    Re: 40-41 Schwinn D97X Build.

    here are the paint details on my BFG badged bike...


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    i don't think that's a prewar fork...


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    the folded over looking stay bridges are indeed normal (!). love the look of that coaster brake arm!! 8)
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    Thank you for those pictures Bendix, those help a lot!
    Do you have any more pictures of that fork? What's the difference between a prewar fork and a postwar fork?
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    i'll take some, obviously i took that one for the paint detail... :wink:

    if i understand correctly the prewar ones (with and w/out the brace) have a brazed crown/leg assembly. the later froks are the one piece 'ashtabula' type where the crown and legs are one big, bent piece of metal with just the steerer tube brazed on.

    somebody correct me if i'm confused about that...
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    ha! too late- i'll correct myself!

    i guess the prewar forks w/out the built in truss rod guides were indeed similar in construction to the postwar ones


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    the profile is a little different viewed from the top though...


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    the earlier braced forks had the brazed construction...the two were sort of merged in my memory... :wink:


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    Re: 40-41 Schwinn D97X Build.

    Thank you very much for the infomation and the pictures.
    So yeah, that would make my forks post-war:
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    Now I know what to look for though! Thanks again.
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    Tires came in today! :D Thanks Chimichanga!

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    They are pretty sweet!
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    Progress on rebuilding the wheels:
    Old spokes V.S. New spokes
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    I wonder if a bath in vinegar will clean them up a bit?
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    The spokes are being a pain. Most of the nipples are stuck to the spokes, and they kept breaking. So I figured if they are all trashed, why try to save them? So I cut most if the spokes in the middle, trashed the side with out the nipples, and I will be soaking the ends with the nipples in PB-Blaster in order to save the nipples hopefully soon.

    Next on the list is to clean up the hubs as good as possible, and re-lace the rims with the new spokes.
    Progress has been slow because of this :
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