Bike shop said they can't remove my rear sprocket...help!!

[Caleb Provencio]

The spokes on my '54 Hawthorn were so rusted I had to cut them to remove the rim to refinish it. I got the rims done and brought them into my local shop to get re-laced and they called me tonight saying they couldn't find a way to remove my rear sprocket to lace up the wheels. I'm stuck, any ideas?

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[deorman]

It's held in place by a threaded ring, but the easiest way is to remove the bearing "cone" from the drive side, and unscrew the driver from the clutch, releasing the hub inards. Don't bother taking apart the brake anchor side. Lace it up, then reassemble with some fresh grease on the bearings so it can be trued. here's a diagram and explanation to help. http://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-departure-model-d-rebuild.30484/

 

[Crassly]

Yes. It isn't that the bike shop "can't", it is because they don't know how.

 

[The Black Monark]

Deorman got it: spoke the wheel with the hub shell loose/empty/removed from the inside parts. Installing new ball-bearings is a good idea while you have it apart. I have factory service instructions for that hub, will send scans if you like.

 

[Caleb Provencio]

Lace it up, then reassemble with some fresh grease on the bearings so it can be trued. here's a diagram and explanation to help. http://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-departure-model-d-rebuild.30484/

The problem is I can't lace it up until I get that ring off - with that rear sprocket on there you can't thread a spoke into the hub. Ideas at getting the sprocket off?

Monark - yes, please that would be awesome if you could scan and send to me. Thank you so much! [email protected]

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[The Black Monark]

remove the innards from the hub shell
clean innards
clean hub shell
spoke the wheel
install new bearings into the old cages
reassemble
tension and true wheel
install into bike
ride to the malt shop

 

[Crassly]

Do exactly what deorman said. Take the sprocket off with the driver. Don't mess with the ring at all.

 

[The Black Monark]

spoke the wheel with the guts removed from the shell. reassemble so the wheel will go into the truing stand

 

[Caleb Provencio]

I got it, thank you guys so much!! Now for that bike shop, I'm going to find someone else to lace up the wheels...any professional bike shop that couldn't figure this out and wasn't willing to help me figure it out doesn't deserve my business!

Here is a picture of "Betty Lou" so far:

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[The Black Monark]

DIY:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

 

[Nightrider]

The slot in the cog is for replacing spokes. A bit more tedious but you can lace your wheel with the hub intact.

 

[Wildcat]

It's like a breakfast restaurant that doesn't know how to make toast. I don't blame you for going elsewhere.

 

[joel.romeo.79]

That is kind of an embarrassing answer from the bike shop. I would slap somebody

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[The Black Monark]

The slot in the cog is for replacing spokes. A bit more tedious but you can lace your wheel with the hub intact.

Ever tried this?

 

[5speed]

thats what the sproket slot is for

 

[The Black Monark]

thats what the sproket slot is for

Have you spoked a wheel by inserting the spokes through the slot?

 

[Nightrider]

Ever tried this?

I have done it a few times. However, it does get old turning the cog to a new hole, fighting dangling spokes. I'm used to it now. Usually I rebuild my hubs and then set 'em aside waiting for something to put it on it on.

 

[deorman]

The slot is for replacing spokes, but personally, for a complete relace I would still recommend gutting the hub. What ever works for you is always the best way.

 

[Bendix]

The slot is for replacing spokes, but personally, for a complete relace I would still recommend gutting the hub. What ever works for you is always the best way.

+1.

It's also much nicer working without the added weight and awkwardness of internal hub guts... ;-)

 

[Lil' rat rod]

So sad when these shops can't turn wrenches and remove a couple nuts... New Departure Model D, possibly the easiest hub to service out there and my personal favorite. As stated earlier, take it apart yourself. It's not hard and you'll be happy to know afterward how it works. Will make you appriciate it more after its back together.